A Response to the Response to the First Lesson
(Remember: this is a repost from my other blog)
TVD responded to the Response, and said:
Remember Mises's argument against government intervention:
In our case, it is similarly not a matter of coercion versus a utopia of no coercion. It is a question of coercion by whom. All acts of force require both the person who uses it, and a victim. There can be only two options: the use of force by those who seek to violate the rights of others, and the use of force against those thieves, rapists, and murderers. I would rather that the government only levy force against those who rape, rob, murder, and defraud others.
If you disagree with this, then you disagree with me about who is justified to use force. You disagree with me that the only justified use of force is against those who have first used it to violate the rights of others.
I would first point out that no one owns women. Then I would point out that in a society ordered on equal freedom, it is precisely these rapists, thieves, and murderers who have something to fear from individuals within and outside the government.
The government is a smaller group of people entrusted with the power to enforce the right of self-defense of each individual in the larger group that makes up the rest of society.
Instead of having to take weekly karate courses, buy elephant guns and landmines, security alarms, and guard dogs, to maximize our time and effort we delegate this function to a smaller group of people who may continually enforce our rights.
Since my freedom depends on your not being able to rape, rob, murder, or defraud me, I have quite a vested interest in making sure you are unable to do that.
The government is a smaller group of people entrusted with the power to enforce the right of self-defense of each individual in the larger group that makes up the rest of society.
It is composed of individuals. These individuals, like all other humans, both require the absence of force against them to survive, and are limited by the equal rights of all other humans from using force against innocents. An individual in the government who uses force against innocents is just as much a criminal as if he were a private citizen.
In a society ordered on equal freedom, the government is limited in its power by a constitution. The government official who acts beyond those limits becomes a criminal as surely as if a private citizen performed that action.
In all of human history, government has been eager to enforce its edicts on citizens. It is only with the development of a constitutional republic that the government is required to enforce the individuals within it as well as the rest of society.
I am sure my other three readers would be glad to fisk your last couple sentences for me. You other three: fisk well, and I'll post your arguments.
Posted by: Tom "The Pooklekufr" Treloar at March 30, 2005 15:35 EST |
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